On Tuesday 18 April 2017 07:38:22 andy pugh wrote:
> On 18 April 2017 at 09:55, Chris Morley <***@hotmail.com>
> > it's really disappointing the debacle of GTK2 and 3.
> Yes. I like what we can do with GladeVCP but the fact is that there
> seems to be absolutely no support to be had at all.
> I had a problem with pyGTK and got no reply at all on the mailing
> list, or on their IRC, or even sending emails to the professional
> developers listed on the pyGTK home page under "consulting"
> The pygtk email list archives are here:
> http://mailman.daa.com.au/cgi-bin/pipermail/pygtk/ You will see that
> it is a write-only medium.
Such does seem to be discouraging, Andy.
Are we as a group, destined to develop our own version of a gui helper?
The things we need seem to be of zero interest to the crowd of what I
call "drive by" coders for lack of a more descriptive term. They were
for the most part, scratching an itch of their own, and once
sufficiently scratched, the key is twisted and down the road they go,
leaving no means of obtaining any support when a linked library
is "cleaned up" by someone else scratching their own personal itch.
The problem as I see it, is 100% TANSTAAFL.
pyvcp seems to be the longest surviving gui dialect, and I have to assume
it is 100% our own groups code, not having encountered it elsewhere to
my knowledge, but it has some lacks. But the fact that a function can
still be coded and made to work, such as Kurt's "units" that I was
chasing recently, is an example of what some of us can do when we have
an itch. So I would suggest that all of us should be contributing to
the wiki so that WE will have our own support, filling in the gaps in
pyvcp until we have all of our itches scratched. 'twill never happen of
course because each new feature opens up the possibility of doing even
more, so there is yet another itch to scratch.
The wiki seems to be a victim of not enough TLC. It seriously needs a
whats new category that links to the most recent 20 commits as that
would bring the gems to our attention w/o having to concoct a search
I _should_ be working on separating out my jog dial code so that it
becomes a postgui hal file and its matching .xml file, and get that
committed to the wiki. But with all its comments just so I can track it
myself, its likely to be close to 500 LOC. More than the hal file
itself without the jogging. One more module to swap out, and make
Kurts "units" switch the jog increments to metric with another mult2,
then some cut and paste (I hope) should realize that. But first, make
some swarf with it as I don't have a working spindle crank. Bearings s/b
be here later today (according to amazon's web page)...
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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